I just wanted to point out that Nethack is still a great game. Not only because it''s all gameplay and it doesn''t fawn over graphics, but it also proves a few things about games and game design. Nethack doesn''t really have a story, and it''s all hack and slash. I think that these days, everybody is putting too much emphasis on stories, characters, etc. Sure, we denounce people who are obsessed with technology over gameplay, but are stories and characters as insanely important as we sometimes make them out to be? I''m not against having a good story and cool characters, I implement them in most of my games, but we shouldn''t always be putting an insane amount of emphasis on them. Gameplay will always be the most important thing, everything else is secondary. P.S. I''m not against graphics either. - DarkMage139 "Real game developers don't change the rules. Real game developers don't break the rules. Real game developers make the rules!" "Originality (in games) is the spice of life!"

Could it be that if the gameplay was good enough, and there was enough variation, that players would always have their own stories to tell?

SonicSilcion, yeah, that''s what I''d like to see...

"The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom." --William Blake

Yeah, that could happen...

- DarkMage139
"Real game developers don't change the rules. Real game developers don't break the rules. Real game developers make the rules!"
"Originality (in games) is the spice of life!"